Wait, Chrysler still uses the MB electronic keys?

"KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs" (kusabisensei) 04/14/2015 at 17:35 • Filed to: None

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Avis gave me a brand new Dodge Grand Caravan for the week. Even after the divestiture of Chrysler by Daimler AG, the Mopar boys are still using the key system that originated on the W210 E Class of 1998.

Do they just have too many from old stock, or are they getting lazy at designing new pieces?

Nibbles > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:37

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If it don't break too often , why fix it?

jkm7680 > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:37

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Probably lazy, but YA know Chrysler doing Chrysler things.

BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:38

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That's weird. My parents got two new Chrysler products in January and neither use that key.

This is what they have.

dogisbadob > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:39

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I don't see anything wrong with this, unless it's a bad design or something. Replacement keys have gotten expensive enough as it is, so at least the economy of scale can make them just a bit cheaper to replace.

Takuro Spirit > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:41

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Our '14 C/V has that old shitty key. I'm guessing until the van's next redesign they won't change it.

Alfalfa Romeo > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:43

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's just a fleet thing. It's not irregular to use older and/or surplus tech for fleet vehicles.

JDMatt > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:43

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As a Valet, I know that Mercedes also uses those type of keys today, even in cars with keyless entry. Chrysler and Mercedes are still using that type of key simply because it works.

NoneOfYourBiz > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 17:52

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I bought a used car recently. (not Mopar)

I dislike the fob enough that future car purchases will be influenced by the included fob.

Oh, and these?

My take on these? Buttons should be in a straight line down the middle so the user doesn't need to look at them to determine what they're pressing. Top button: unlock. Next one: lock. Maybe a panic button on the reverse side.

Keep 'em narrow too, no wider than a key.

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Hyundai and Nissan aren't bad:

whoarder is tellurium > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 18:36

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I bet they're still using the E class rear suspension and S class front suspension designs on their LX platforms too. Ontop of that, I think they just changed over from the NAG1 Mercedes 5 speed to the ZF 8 speed as well. (for the whole line)

BigBlock440 > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 18:46

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Only on vehicle that haven't been redesigned yet

jvirgs drives a Subaru > BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest. 04/14/2015 at 18:55

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The cars that have the smart access use those fobs. The cars that still have a traditional ignition use the MB fob.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 19:11

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Well considering Mercedes still uses that same key (with some chrome and an MB logo) even on the S Class, I don't see a problem with Chrysler doing so as well.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 19:22

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Pshht, you and your keys with buttons, my truck doesnt even have central locking! If I have a passenger they have to stand outside like an idiot until I get into my truck and open the passenger door from the inside.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > jkm7680 04/14/2015 at 21:08

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Yeah, considering those keys aren't cheap to replace.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > whoarder is tellurium 04/14/2015 at 21:10

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Probably. Sergio is going to milk this for all it's worth.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Takuro Spirit 04/14/2015 at 21:11

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Wait. Chrysler has redesigned vans?

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > jvirgs drives a Subaru 04/14/2015 at 21:12

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Except the Jeep Wrangler. Dad has one of those with a metal key and Pentastar engine.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > BigBlock440 04/14/2015 at 21:14

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This is Chrysler we are talking about. Redesigns are for wusses.

ranwhenparked > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 04/14/2015 at 22:07

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They still have a few pre-Cerberus models in production, so I expect things like that are being phased out gradually as older cars reach the end of their lifecycles. That said, they're just buying the fobs from whatever Chinese supplier Daimler contracted with to make them originally - at this point, Daimler might not even own the design patent anymore.